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Logic
Logic skill
A Sim practicing her logic skill.

Skill Logic

Logic is a skill in The Sims series. It is a valuable skill for many careers and playing games like chess.

Ways to increase logic

A toybox is good object for toddlers to study logic from the early ages.

A toybox is good object for toddlers to study logic from the early ages.

Careers which require the logic skill

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The Sims

In The Sims: Makin' Magic, it improves spell casting, affects how many MagiCoins a Sim will get for performing on the stone stage or at the tricks tables in Magic Town, and may affect the performance of other magical acts.

The Sims 2

In The Sims 2, logic also affects the odds of winning a chess game. With The Sims 2: University, teenagers with a high logic skill (level 8 or higher) qualify for the Will Wright Genius Grant, which is a §750 scholarship. Logic increases the rate at which a Sim earns the Register talent badge from The Sims 2: Open for Business. With The Sims 2: FreeTime, having high logic makes it easier for Sims to maintain high enthusiasm for the games and science hobbies. Additionally, all Sims in The Sims 2 who have 10 points in logic get a 35% boost when learning other skills, except for body and charisma.

The Sims 3

The logic skill icon
The logic skill icon

In The Sims 3, logic is augmented by the computer whiz, genius, and perceptive[TS3:A] traits. With a higher logic skill, Sims can look through the telescope in many different ways. Sims are able to use the Catalyst Chemistry Lab Station to make potions.[TS3:G]

When you achieved Level 10, you will get a certificate:

"With mental skills like yours it is only logical that we, the Pollak Institute for Esoteric but Correct Thinking congratulate you, for achieving the very highest level of excellence in your mental endeavors. Please accept this handsomely framed certificate and display it with pride knowing others will see just how skilled you are"

Statistics

Challenges

Skill challenges related to logic:

Abilities

Increasing a Sim's logic skill gives the Sim certain special interactions:

Level Ability Notes
3 Search Galaxy Allows the Sim to find and name stars for simoleons.
5 Tutor Children Allows the Sim to tutor children to increase the child's grades. Increases the Logic skill of both Sims if they have learned it.
10 Tutor Sims for Skill Allows the Sim to teach other Sims skills they know.

Celestial bodies

When using a telescope and searching the galaxy, a Sim will sometimes discover a celestial body. It may be a comet, planet, star, moon, galaxy, black hole, neutron or satellite. The Sim will then earn a small amount of money or up to several thousand (for discovering a black hole) for contributing to the scientific community.

With The Sims 3: Into the Future, Sims can use the Stellar Observatory to search for stellar activity. Like telescopes, Sims can also discover celestial bodies during this interaction. Sims who are in the astrophysicist branch of the astronomer career can discover unique celestial bodies, and for every celestial body they discover, they can earn a painting of that body. These paintings can have a value from hundreds to thousands of simoleons depending on the importance of that discovery. The unique bodies are an asteroid belt, constellation, event horizon, gamma ray burst, life on another planet, nebula, shooting star, super nova, and the end of universe. The game screen can flash for a second after discovering a super nova.

Also, Sims may see a meteor fall from the sky and land somewhere in town. They can use Map View to find the land site and travel there to collect the space rock. There is also a chance that the meteor will fall on them.

Celestial Body Reward [§] Notes Object[n 1]
Asteroid Belt Asteroid Belt §70-§80 From Stellar Observatory with a 9% chance. Asteroid Belt
Black Hole Black Hole §10,000 From Telescope with a 0.1% chance[n 2] or Stellar Observatory with a 6% chance[n 3]. Black Hole
Comet Comet §300-§500 From Telescope with a 3% chance[n 2] or Stellar Observatory with a 6% chance[n 3]. Comet
Constellation Constellation §70-§80 From Stellar Observatory with a 6% chance[n 3]. Constellation
Event Horizon Event Horizon §70-§80 From Stellar Observatory with a 7% chance[n 3].
Requires level 8 of the Astrophysicist branch of Astronomer career.
Event Horizon
Galaxy Galaxy §500-§1,500 From Telescope with a 1% chance[n 2] or Stellar Observatory with a 8% chance[n 3]. Galaxy
Gamma Ray Gamma Ray §70-§80 From Stellar Observatory with a 9% chance[n 3].
Requires level 6 of the Astrophysicist branch of Astronomer career.
Gamma Ray
Life on Another Planet Life on Another Planet §70-§80 From Stellar Observatory with a 8% chance[n 3].
Requires level 9 of the Astrophysicist branch of Astronomer career.
Life on Another Planet
Moon Moon §250-§450 From Telescope with a 4% chance[n 2] or Stellar Observatory with a 5% chance[n 3]. Moon
Nebula Nebula §70-§80 From Stellar Observatory with a 7% chance[n 3]. Nebula
Planet Planet §150-§350 From Telescope with a 6.9% chance[n 2] or Stellar Observatory with a 5% chance[n 3]. Planet
Satellite Satellite §25-§75 From Telescope with a 10% chance[n 2] or Stellar Observatory with a 5% chance[n 3]. Satellite
Shooting Star Shooting Star §70-§80 From Stellar Observatory with a 8% chance[n 3]. Shooting Star
Star Star §70-§80 From Telescope with a 75% chance[n 2] or Stellar Observatory with a 5% chance[n 3].
Star types: Dwarf, SubGiant, Giant, SuperGiant, Neutron, Pulsar
Star sizes: Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, Huge, Ginormus
Star colours: Blue, White, Yellow, Orange, Red
Star
Super Nova Super Nova §70-§80 From Stellar Observatory with a 6% chance[n 3].
Requires level 7 of the Astrophysicist branch of Astronomer career.
Screen will flash first before discovery.
Super Nova
The End of Universe The End of Universe §70-§80 From Stellar Observatory with a 50% chance[n 3].
Requires level 10 of the Astrophysicist branch of Astronomer career.
This seems to be only found once per sim.
The End of Universe

Notes

  1. Both a Simoleon reward and the object reward is granted per discovery when using Stellar Observatory.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 This does not include the fail chance to find something while using the telescope. It is the percent chance of which celestial body it will be from the list.
  3. 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13 3.14 This does not include the fail chance to find something while using Stellar Observatory. Chance varies according to Logic Skill, minimum of 5% at level 1 and up to 95% at level 10. It is the percent chance of which celestial body it will be from the list.

Opportunities

Opportunities related to logic:

Skill improvement

TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
Becoming More Logical
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Repeatable
  • Received from phone (5)

N/A

Gain a level in Logic skill and visit the science lab between 7 AM and 5 PM.

The Science Facility thinks you can reach the top of the logical peak, but only if you really put your mind to it. Improve your Logic Skill by one point at the behest of the scientists and they'll sponsor you. Sponsorship equals money, by the way.

Visiting rabbit hole

TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
The Great Argyle Sinclair
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Repeatable
  • Received from phone (5)
  • +5% Logic skill

N/A

"Watch Argyle Sinclair" at the bookstore between 12 PM and 4 PM (16:00).

The phenomenally gifted chess champion Argyle Sinclair will be holding an exhibition match against some locals at the Bookstore in the near future. You should attend the event and watch – you just might learn a thing or two!
Notes: Completion notification: "Argyle Sinclair was simply marvelous, a testament to humanity's power over machines and non-sentient creatures! You watched him defeat his opponent in only two moves, something not seen since… well, ever! Your logic skills improved simply by watching the exhibition!"
TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
Riddle Away
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Logic skill level 2-10
  • Bookstore rabbit hole
  • Repeatable
  • Received from phone (5)
Winning
  • §1,500
  • +10% Logic skill
Losing
  • +15% Logic skill

3 days

"Compete in Contest" at the bookstore between 12 PM and 5 PM.

The Bookstore is trying to encourage interest and sales for their puzzle book section by holding a Riddle-A-Thon. All locals with a strong, logically fueled mind and a desire to win cash prizes should enter! Hone your Logic Skill and visit the Bookstore to compete before the contest ends.
Notes: The base chance of winning the opportunity is 25%, modified by up to +40% at level 10 Logic skill and +15% at maximum mood.
TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
Puzzle Panic
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Logic skill level 3-7
  • Grocery rabbit hole
  • Once per Sim
  • Received from phone (10)
  • §400

N/A

"Assemble Puzzles" at the grocery between 7 AM and 10 PM.

Chaos has struck at the Supermarket! While unloading a new shipment of goods, an errant forklift ran over one pallet containing thousands of puzzle pieces! The Supermarket needs someone with a sharp mind to piece the puzzles together so that they can put them back into boxes and put them on store shelves. Visit the Supermarket and lend a hand!
TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
Fixing the Books
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Once per Sim
  • Received from phone (10)
  • §750

N/A

"Assist Accountants" at the office building between 7 AM and 5 PM.

The accountants at the Business Office are a tad stumped with their balance sheets. Tax season is fast approaching and the line between assets, costs, debits, and credits is blurry and confusing. Assist the accountants at the Business Office with their taxes and you'll be paid.
TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
A Stimulating Experiment
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Logic skill level 4-10
  • Science lab rabbit hole
  • Repeatable
  • Received from phone (5)
  • §600

5 days

"Participate in Study" at the science lab between 12 PM and 6 PM on weekdays.

The Science Facility is holding an experiment to see how Sims of different brain power react to different stimuli. Naturally, you've been asked to participate. Visit the Science Facility before too long to be poked, prodded, and "gently" shocked to earn some money.
TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
Logic 101
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Logic skill level 5-10
  • School rabbit hole
  • Once per Sim
  • Received from phone (10)
  • §600

N/A

"Teach Logic Class" at the school between 10 AM and 2 PM on weekdays.

The School had to scale back on costs and cut back on the full time Logic staff. Fortunately, they have enough money set aside to pay for guest lecturers. You've been invited to speak at the School about the importance of a good foundation in Logic. You'll be well paid for your time.
TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
Taking Down Sinclair
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Logic skill level 10
  • Theater rabbit hole
  • Repeatable
  • Received from phone (5)
  • §2,500

2 days

"Challenge Argyle Sinclair" at the theater.

Argyle Sinclair has heard much about your deeds as a logical being and challenges you to a chess match at the Theatre. If you feel bold enough to show up in time, you will find a chess opponent who is as cruel as he is brilliant. Good luck!

Tutoring

TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
Tutor Me Please
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Logic skill level 5-10
  • Have a child or teen acquaintance or higher
  • Once per Sim
  • Received from phone (10)
  • §250
  • +30 Relationship with target

N/A

Tutor the target Sim.

(Sim name) has heard you possess quite the logical mind and wouldn't mind if you dropped by to pass on some of that knowledge. Tutor (Sim name) and your relationship will improve, plus you'll be paid!
TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
Logic Tutoring
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Logic skill level 10
  • Office building rabbit hole
  • A tutorable non-household Sim working in Business career
  • Repeatable
  • Received from phone (5)
  • §2,000

N/A

Tutor the target Sim in a skill and visit the office building.

The managers at (Office building name) would like you to come in to help train (Sim name), help analyze their current practices, and provide advice on where to take the business in the future. The economy is in the midst of what other analysts are calling "trying times," so any logic you can provide will earn you big bucks.

Miscellaneous

TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
Settle an Argument
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Logic skill level 3-9
  • Once per Sim
  • Received from phone (10)
  • +10% Logic skill
  • +20 Relationship with target

N/A

"Convince Logic is Great" to the target Sim.

(Sim name) is a bit soured on logical thinking because it can make people a tad boring and... logical. Have a chat with (Sim name) and provide a convincing argument about the greatness of logical thought. If you do well, you might even be able to increase your relationship with (Sim name)!
TS3WA Icon Logic skill icon
Riddle War in China
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Logic skill level 3-10
  • Once per Sim
  • Received from phone (10)
  • +10% Logic skill
  • §500

N/A

Travel to Shang Simla, "Solve Riddle" to 3 different Sims, and report back to the theater.

A hobby group has started up at the Theater with Sims practicing for a riddle contest. It's a battle to see who can untangle the web of logic within the riddle. The group has heard of your Logic prowess and they want to send you to China to face the best local riddle-writers. It will build Logic Skill and earn you some cash.
TS3WA Icon Logic skill icon
A French Puzzler
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Logic skill level 3-10
  • Have an acquaintance or higher
  • Once per Sim
  • Received from phone (10)
  • Homeworld only
  • +10% Logic skill
  • §500

N/A

Travel to Champs Les Sims, "Ask About Puzzle" to the target Sim, and report back to the target Sim.

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TS3WA Icon Logic skill icon
Senet Strategy
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Once per Sim
  • Received from phone (10)
  • +10% Logic skill
  • §500

N/A

Travel to Al Simhara, "Learn Senet" from the target Sim, and report back to the military base.

The military has long explored tactical games as a training method. They would like to send you to Egypt to learn the game of Senet from a local and report back on its potential as a training tool. You will earn some cash if you undertake the trip.
TS3 Icon Logic skill icon
Fixing the Celestial Slump
Requirements Availability Rewards Timeout
  • Logic skill level 5-10
  • Science lab rabbit hole
  • Once per Sim
  • Received from phone (10)
  • §500
  • +10% Logic skill

N/A

Search galaxy on a telescope and visit the science lab.

The Science Facility has hit a bit of a slump and they haven't discovered any celestial bodies in quite some time. They need to discover something soon if they want to keep their grants, so they've asked local geniuses to do some backyard astronomy. Search the galaxy using your own telescope at home, and you'll be well paid for your efforts.
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Wishes

Wishes related to logic:

Icon Name Lifetime Happiness Description Trigger EP
W logic skill
W learn s
Learn Logic Skill 500 Your Sim seeks to learn something new to enrich and enlighten. Have your Sim refine a talent to perhaps pick up a new skill! &BG
TS3 Icon
W logic skill
W learn s
Take a Class in the Logic Skill 500 Classes are a quick way to learn new skills, though at the cost of a few Simoleons. Your Sim wants to take a skill class, so visit the different buildings in town to find the right class. &BG
TS3 Icon
W logic skill
W book s
Read a Book About Logic Skill 500 Learning new things opens the doorway for a variety of activities. Your Sim dreams of learning more about a skill. Send your Sim to the bookstore to buy a book on the topic! &BG
TS3 Icon
W logic skill
W improve s
Improve Logic Skill Varies Learning is an exciting pursuit many Sims enjoy. Your Sim wants to improve a skill so they can do more things with the knowledge! Practice the skill until your Sim gains a level. &BG
TS3 Icon
W telescope
Placeholder
Use a Telescope 150 The night sky is beautiful and mysterious. Your Sim wants to explore the logical patterns of the stars. &BG
TS3 Icon
W telescope
Placeholder
Discover a Star 300 Enterprising astronomers can eventually discover stars and other celestial bodies by Searching the Galaxy on telescope. Your Sim wants to discover a star! &BG
TS3 Icon
W chess
Placeholder
Play Chess 150 Chess is a match of wits and cunning that often concludes without bloodshed. Your Sim wants to practice or play chess with someone. &BG
TS3 Icon
W generic sim
W chess s
Win a Ranked Chess Match 500 Your Sim hopes to reign supreme on the highly dangerous Ranked Chess Circuit. Use the phone to invite over your next opponent. &BG
TS3 Icon
W logic skill
W top level s
Master the Logic Skill 5,000 Mastering a Skill takes a great patience and dedication, but your Sim aspires to be the best. Have your Sim practice the skill and complete Opportunities, and great things will happen. &BG
TS3 Icon
W generic skill
W logic skill s
Tutor Someone in a Skill 300 Tutoring is a great way to teach others about a topic quickly. Your Sim wants to tutor someone in a skill such as cooking or fishing. &BG
TS3 Icon
W discover potion
Placeholder
Discover a Potion 150 The act of scientific discovery is a thrilling journey into the realm of undiscovered knowledge, Your Sim wants to Discover a Potion using the Catalyst Chemistry Lab Station. Eureka! &EP04
TS3G Icon
W make x potion
Placeholder
Make a [potion name] Potion Varies Experimenting with potions is an adventure of discovery into the wonders of science. Your Sim wants to Make a [potion name] Potion on the Catalyst Chemistry Lab Station. &EP04
TS3G Icon
W make every potion
Placeholder
Discover All Potions 5,000 Setting a lofty goal fuels ambition and can lead to great achievements! Your Sim wants to streatch his/her scientific knowledge and Discover every Potion on the Catalyst Chemistry Lab Station. &EP04
TS3G Icon
W search for stellar activity
Placeholder
Search for Stellar Activity 250 The cosmos is so huge that there are always new phenomena to find. Your Sim wants to make a discovery of their own! &EP11
TS3ITF Icon
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Trivia

The Sims 4

Skill TS4 Logic

In The Sims 4 is augmented by the genius trait, as it will occasionally give a focused moodlet, with focused being the ideal emotion for building logic skill. Gaining logic skill is required for the Nerd Brain aspiration and also for some careers.

Benefits

Similarly to the previous games, Sims with higher logic skill increase their chances of winning at games like chess. Logic skill is also tied to collecting, with benefits relating to this including the ability to collect and analyze plant, crystal and fossil samples at levels 2, 5 and 8 respectively. Also, Sims can unlock several Logic based interactions: 'Discuss Logic', 'Provide Logical Solution to Problems' and 'Rant Logically'.

Sims proficient in this skill

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